Unleash the nostalgic power of music with us here at OSD Towers, as friends of the show John Bishop and Patch join Robbo, Johnny, Logan and Scott for a bumper edition of the best podcast recorded in our house that day.
We turn back the hands of time to debate which decade of music was the greatest, as each of our guests take their turn presenting their case why their chosen era is best.
From the vibrant 60s, through to the eclectic 90s. Revel in fascinating tales as we delve into the influence of these decades on music, the explosion of new sounds, and the longevity of bands such as The Rolling Stones.
Patch kicks things off and makes an argument for the 60's being where all modern music started, and for everything that we listen to now not existing if it wasn't for then.
We traverse the freewheeling 70's with Robbo as he talks passionately about how that decade expanded and improved on what came before, and then crash into the radical 80s where we hit a crossover of styles and the advent of technology that John states saw music reach a zenith.
Throughout, the gang's vivid recollections of icons like Stevie Wonder and Jimi Hendrix, a handy tip for remembering lyrics, and even the adrenaline rush of a first holiday sans parents all manage to make an appearance.
And then it's time to hit the 90s, with Johnny's take on Britpop bands like Oasis, their music, global reach and the intense competition of the time means that his chosen decade reached heights that no other one has ever reached.
So tune in for a mix of nostalgia, music appreciation, hearty laughter, and a healthy dose of camaraderie.
OSD - it's like a podcast...only better.
Intro track "Better Than That" copyright Sub-Radio. Used with permission.
"Better Than That" copyright Sub-Radio, used with permission.
Unleash the nostalgic power of music with us here at OSD Towers, as friends of the show John Bishop and Patch join Robbo, Johnny, Logan and Scott for a bumper edition of the best podcast recorded in our house that day.
We turn back the hands of time to debate which decade of music was the greatest, as each of our guests take their turn presenting their case why their chosen era is best.
From the vibrant 60s, through to the eclectic 90s. Revel in fascinating tales as we delve into the influence of these decades on music, the explosion of new sounds, and the longevity of bands such as The Rolling Stones.
Patch kicks things off and makes an argument for the 60's being where all modern music started, and for everything that we listen to now not existing if it wasn't for then.
We traverse the freewheeling 70's with Robbo as he talks passionately about how that decade expanded and improved on what came before, and then crash into the radical 80s where we hit a crossover of styles and the advent of technology that John states saw music reach a zenith.
Throughout, the gang's vivid recollections of icons like Stevie Wonder and Jimi Hendrix, a handy tip for remembering lyrics, and even the adrenaline rush of a first holiday sans parents all manage to make an appearance.
And then it's time to hit the 90s, with Johnny's take on Britpop bands like Oasis, their music, global reach and the intense competition of the time means that his chosen decade reached heights that no other one has ever reached.
So tune in for a mix of nostalgia, music appreciation, hearty laughter, and a healthy dose of camaraderie.
OSD - it's like a podcast...only better.
Intro track "Better Than That" copyright Sub-Radio. Used with permission.
"Better Than That" copyright Sub-Radio, used with permission.
Good afternoon sunflowers. It's been a marvelous day in the forest. How are we all doing today? A couple of things, Anybody?
Speaker 2:else.
Speaker 1:Anybody else. Johnny, you got the safe yourself. Have you had a good day?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean I don't know how good yours was to talk about sunflowers and forest, which are nowhere near any of us. I went back for it.
Speaker 1:I went to a sunflower forest today. Oh well, I haven't. You should go. It's very good Sunflowers on Hanging Island.
Speaker 4:Oh, ok, I didn't know that was one.
Speaker 2:See what Robbo was trying to do there. Robbo knew where I was going. He jumped in and carried on talking. It's very clever, but you know me. I'm a massive prick. I won't give up. I'll just wait until you finish. Yeah, a couple of things. It's not afternoon, it's dark outside.
Speaker 1:Oh, he's doing that one now.
Speaker 2:Do we have one, Johnny? It's a fact.
Speaker 1:He always said no, it's, oh, no, actually it's eight o'clock, isn't it?
Speaker 2:That's one's eight. I want to go home already. Yeah, thanks for that brilliant introduction, robbo, not one of your best ones, mate, I'm not going to lie. I know you can do better. You know you can do better. Do you want to re-record? Do you want?
Speaker 5:to start again.
Speaker 2:Sure, yeah, if I were you, you can do it no. Ok, Anybody else around the table seeing it? This is an early start. Yes, so yeah, hi everybody. Cheers Robbo, Thanks for that. We're here. It's me. It's me, the M-I-C of OSD, and I'm back here for another episode of Logan and the. I haven't thought of one this week. This is your chance. What I haven't prepared.
Speaker 1:Logan and the Masters. That's the one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that and also this is your chance to rinse me. Do you want to do it again? Jesus Christ, I'm throwing him a softball here, just get on with it. You're mistaking me for your girlfriend.
Speaker 5:What girlfriend.
Speaker 2:OK, so yeah, Logan and the, I genuinely I did think of one, but I've forgotten it.
Speaker 1:Masters sounds good, doesn't it Johnny? Yeah, we'll take that. Logan and the Loverballs yeah, OK, that sounds nice.
Speaker 2:You know, we're here talking about music and stuff that sounds like a 60s sort of band doesn't it?
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, logan and the Loverballs, yeah.
Speaker 2:So we're here with Scott, one of our little regulars, but Scott's just still sitting there watching this week, aren't he Say hi, scott.
Speaker 7:Hello everyone.
Speaker 5:That echoed about the whole room.
Speaker 4:That's all I've got.
Speaker 2:Yeah, scott is here, but Scott just wants to. You know, very much like his usual Saturday night at La Fleur's Club in Ferrum. Wants to watch Johnny, how are you? I'm really good. Scott's got his head in his head though.
Speaker 4:What's La Fleur's Club? Anyway, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I just made it up. I'm hoping there isn't. Imagine if there was actually La Fleur's Club. And it could be Sounds good.
Speaker 1:Maybe there was once in the 60s.
Speaker 2:Oh, I like that. Well, I don't forget he's got his finger on the edit button, so if there is, I can remove it. How?
Speaker 4:are you? Yeah, I'm really good. How's your head? I'm now recovering from my bad sunburn.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, that was sore, I broke my own cardinal rule Didn't wear the Factor 50.
Speaker 5:Honestly his head was like a Belizean beaker the other day. Look.
Speaker 4:I was a panda.
Speaker 2:You did. Yeah, it was funny.
Speaker 1:I feel a bit like that today because I made sure the kids had Factor 50 on and then forgot to put any on myself. Always good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you're not looking too bad though, You're not looking like.
Speaker 5:I'm not looking like me either, though you know Dave.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and.
Speaker 1:Robbo, hi, chaps, hi, how was everybody? Yeah, I'm good, I've had a busy day. I've had a very busy day. I've been down to that place, wander around for about 10 miles in two mazes. Brilliant, great time.
Speaker 2:Good, really good and it's so sunny and lovely. It was very nice, beautiful Nice, and we've also got two friends of the show returning. I think Patch, this is your third time. John is John your fourth? Yeah, because John's done one on his own with this. That's not been published yet. It's going to be published in the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 6:Oh, it's finally going to be published.
Speaker 2:Yes, I found it. I thought I'd lost it. I'll explain the story shortly, but yeah, so don't forget to get close to the mic. Sorry, john. So yes, so, patch, what's your third one? Yeah, this is my third yeah, and John is your fourth right. Yes, it is Friends of the show. So, John Bishop, say hi, John, Hello everybody.
Speaker 6:How are you doing?
Speaker 2:Sit here quietly and see if we can make him uncomfortable. It's working Awesome and Patch, Patch Collins.
Speaker 3:Hello everyone. You know, one of the sunflowers out there.
Speaker 2:What's your favorite?
Speaker 3:flower Left flowers.
Speaker 2:Very good, very good. This is where we have you on. Someone needs to bring the humor. So we're here this week. We're going to well, okay. So we are going to start, aren't we? Yes, today is old Johnny has prepared a couple. I'm going to quickly throw that in there. So over to Johnny. Fill us in with your wisdom, okay.
Speaker 5:Rather than your tiny flaccid cock.
Speaker 4:Not hungry at all, Right, so I've got a couple here which I got given by my girlfriend because I was struggling to find someone like which was good. So the first one is tinfoil. As you all know, I'm not a very good cook and I didn't know, but one side is matte and the other side shiny, Right Right. And why apparently use the mat side to keep the food cool? So say, if you're I don't know cooking a cold sandwich and you want to wrap it, take it for lunch.
Speaker 2:Sorry, cooking a cold sandwich? No, sorry, making a cold sandwich.
Speaker 1:He didn't say he's not very good at cooking.
Speaker 4:So yeah, so the mat's Body parts Right, I don't know where to go with that one. And anyway, the shiny side is to keep it warm. So if you made a bacon sandwich, you wrap it in the shiny side and it keeps it warm.
Speaker 1:Is it shiny side out or shiny side inside in?
Speaker 4:It's okay, so it keeps the heat inside, so the mat side in for cold, shiny side in for hot.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:Didn't know that Reflected, isn't it? Especially the shiny side reflects heat, yes, back in, so it kind of keeps the heat contained. Yeah, not bad Six out of 10.
Speaker 4:You can do better Okay.
Speaker 5:So also.
Speaker 2:I don't know what to do with cooking this week, but a saucepan.
Speaker 4:There's a hole in the handle, and the reason why is to stop, stop, stop, stop. I want to ask a quick question on this one. Right, john and patch.
Speaker 2:What do you think the holes there? Oh, I think it'd be to hang it somewhere, right, john?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm going to hang it somewhere as well. I think you probably both can need to get it.
Speaker 2:Sorry, boys, when you speak, don't forget Come on harmony.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Don't be scared To hang it somewhere, Gentlemen John and patch Beautiful.
Speaker 2:I only said stop because that's what I thought when we talked about it earlier. The handle yeah. Are they right or wrong? Johnson you are all wrong. What it is to hold, the wooden spoon it's to hold wooden spoon. People can't see you. Scott, why are you doing a visual demonstration? You're fucking wrong. He's doing it into the mic. Anybody's got a malnutrition retarded puppy out there, please bring one to show to replace Scott, because I think they do a better job.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and as Scott was saying what he was trying to visualize, when you put the wooden spoon in the hole, the remnants from the wooden spoon drifts back into the pan, or the wooden spoon, the wooden spoon, the wooden spoon, the wooden spoon, the wooden spoon drifts back into the pan.
Speaker 1:Awesome, Somebody's thought about that haven't they?
Speaker 6:You rest it on an angle.
Speaker 4:On an angle, it's an angle.
Speaker 6:I'm with you boys.
Speaker 2:I thought it was to hang it up earlier on.
Speaker 4:You can use it for that as well. Yeah, thanks, fred Cheers.
Speaker 2:Listeners out there. Now it's D-Land. John Greenfield has given you permission to hang up your saucepans if you want to. You can now go to bed and sleep easy.
Speaker 4:Or use the wooden spoon as well. He didn't give permission for that.
Speaker 4:I've got one final one, which is more of a DIY one. I should be able to explain it. When you're hanging up a picture and it's got the string to hang up the picture and you put the nail in the wall ready and you're normally dancing around trying to get the string onto the nail, which is a bit of a ballache, if you put a fork into the nail with the handle facing upwards, you hang the string over the fork handle and then pull the fork out and it's hanging on the nail I like it, I like to hang it up.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 6:Very, very good.
Speaker 1:Absolutely genius.
Speaker 2:Yeah, very good. Thank you, johnny, there's my 30. I think overall, I'll say nine out of 10.
Speaker 5:Oh, perfect, very good Radicals for Johnny Wow.
Speaker 2:Does that feel like getting a word from Daddy? I don't know. I saw your little face then.
Speaker 4:I was pretty happy with that. You beamed it's Jody's. Oh, they were. Yeah, two of them were Jody's actually.
Speaker 2:Jody's were nine out of 10. Yeah, yours was three.
Speaker 4:Okay, I'll take that as a win. Okay, fair Right cheers.
Speaker 2:thank you, johnny, very, very, very quickly, because we're going to be sitting away from politics a little bit, but I just got to put this out there because it made me chuckle. Oh yeah. Well, what's happening tomorrow?
Speaker 1:This is, oh, this is the arrest isn't it.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So it is. Oh no, Cole, which one is it? It could be Georgia, it could be this, it could be anywhere. Cross knows it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but he's put well the thing I was looking at.
Speaker 2:Sorry, clarify oh Trumpage, sorry.
Speaker 1:Trumpage yeah, he's got to be. He's going to be arrested tomorrow. But the thing I was looking at is that he's he's got to go to court for the second defamation against his sexual assault rape victim and he's putting in no defense, so he's just going to lose. Well, he's lost already, he's got no defense, so. But he's actually putting in no defense and he's taking that as a position of power, so it's like okay.
Speaker 1:So you just don't give a shit anymore, do you? He's just like, yeah, fuck everyone, I'm just going to turn up and do whatever I want. I think.
Speaker 2:I think fuck everyone. That's the problem in the first place.
Speaker 1:That was the problem. That's why I was in this trouble.
Speaker 5:Fuck everyone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, fuck you like a dog, fuck you like a dog. Grab a bag of pussy, good bag. Yeah, so we'll see so tomorrow. Yeah, apparently he said that he will happily surrender for arrest tomorrow. It'd be funny if they did drag him kicking and screaming. There's a thing like watching the other night. I think it's completely central. I think there's a sketch where Trump and Pence go to a kindergarten for the day and basically the Trump's getting involved in all the little paint your fingers or do all that kind of stuff and at the end of it, when Pence is like Donald, we've got to go Donald's like no, I don't want to go, I want to stay, I'm not going.
Speaker 2:And he starts having some massive hissy fit. I remember how I used to be at like two o'clock in Kingsley's oh, yeah, yeah, and this had pulled Sonic rough in which case couldn't wait to leave.
Speaker 1:Have you seen him? I've seen him like that. That's what she was doing. Have you seen when he was actually at a kindergarten and like he turned up and walked into the classroom and there was a couple of kids went absolutely apopleptic Shit, the bed completely got screaming at him and trying to get away?
Speaker 2:You should just went watching your home video, Scott.
Speaker 7:Yes.
Speaker 2:Like you know, turning up in a bunch of kids, start screaming and crying.
Speaker 7:That's not my school.
Speaker 2:I'll edit that bit out. Don't worry, Am I fuck Right? It's enough of that Very pretty patch on. Have you been? You've been good guys Good.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I've been very well yeah.
Speaker 6:Yeah, I've been pretty good mate. Thank you very much.
Speaker 3:Join the sunshine.
Speaker 6:I hope I've been looking at the sunflowers.
Speaker 2:Oh, very nice. Has the amazing other water? Oh sorry, patch gone.
Speaker 3:I'm going to go and get the sunflowers because I went to the National Gallery on Sunday.
Speaker 1:So what was that?
Speaker 3:for that was who, paul McCartney.
Speaker 1:Paul McCartney, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Man cool, Was it good?
Speaker 3:Yes, it was Very good, paul McCartney painted the sunflowers Get lost.
Speaker 6:Patch Cheese boy.
Speaker 2:Knock him out In 30 years. He's had it coming for a while. Right, let's get cracking. So thanks Johnny, thanks everybody, great to have you here. Guys, seriously, you always love having me on the show, and also Rob and Johnny couldn't do this without you. As I always say, scott, fuck off. You're just literally the definition of a Klingon. Well, that's mean Right now, yes, no, no, we love Scott. He makes everything better, yes, patch.
Speaker 3:Sorry, it's the first time I've met Scott. I think he's all right. He is lovely. No, he's lovely yeah.
Speaker 2:There's only one person that's in type of podcast. He's a massive asshole, and that's me. Everyone else is quite lovely, but I'm aware of this because of my level of self-awareness. So I try to make myself feel better and not give into the crushing despair of how much of a content I am by making everybody else try to make me feel as shit as I am. Is it working?
Speaker 4:Okay.
Speaker 2:I don't know where that came from.
Speaker 3:It's all concern. I didn't expect. I've got to be honest. Psychology 101. You hate yourself.
Speaker 2:You make everybody else hate themselves too. You suddenly don't feel alone. We don't hate ourselves. I know that dickhead. That's the whole point I'm trying to, but it's just not working. No, not at all, not hung. We like you too, scott. I like you, scott.
Speaker 5:I like you, Scott.
Speaker 2:I like you, especially when you're naked and restrained.
Speaker 1:I'm afraid Naked and afraid.
Speaker 2:I'm leaving that being Hang on After some of the one lines you can't come out with. You can't suddenly play Mr Ooh, that's too far I know, hold on.
Speaker 5:I'm not even supposed to play, just leave me out of this, okay.
Speaker 2:No, you sat in the hall. You could have sat on the sofa.
Speaker 4:I've been well out of it, but you chose to sit there.
Speaker 2:So it's like sitting in the front row of you know SeaWorld and then complaining when you get wet or going on a date with your mum. Right, let's go.
Speaker 6:So what we're going to talk about this week, and then complaining when you get wet.
Speaker 2:That was the joke. Oh, for fuck's sake.
Speaker 5:Right, this is great, so yes, so, so, so.
Speaker 2:So we're here to talk about the greatest Decadie music ever. Each of the boys here today have chosen a different deck. Well, some of them did, the others got one more default, basically. Paul Robbo, I mentioned it and everybody jumped on a decade and Robbo said um well, which one side I went? There's only the 70s left right. Sorry, but I got from that. It's still pretty good, pretty good. So what we're going to do is each of the boys is going to go around and talk individually. We're going to do it in decade order and they're going to talk for as long as they want, really, about why they think that particular decade is the greatest decade for music ever made. And then they're going to talk about two artists. It could be one band, one solo artist, two solo artists, two bands, whatever, um, that particularly for them stand out in that decade, and why. And then two songs that stand out for them in that decade. Now, the important thing here the listeners, um, especially those you would be in them. Jing Hao impressed, no idea what that means Uh.
Speaker 2:Important for listeners to remember is that this is not about the best setting artists. The most famous artist is the opinion of um, who they feel meant the most to them, who resonated, who still to this day sticks in their mind and still has meaning. And the same with the songs. At the end of each round, um, they're encouraged people to ask questions, if they won after the initial um debate, about why they think that decade is the best. So before we go into the artists and the songs, there'll be a chance for people to ask questions and, you know, say stuff, and at the end of that round, each person will secretly send me a WhatsApp score out of five as to how persuasive they thought that person's argument was. So nobody knows who's scoring and what they're doing. I will not be taking part in the scoring at all, um, because I'm going to be honest here, rob, I would end up on minus points.
Speaker 1:He would lose Just to annoy.
Speaker 2:And then, at the very end, when it was out of go, we will announce the scores and announce who the winner of this debate was. So, again, a departure from OSD, something we've not done before, but we're looking forward to it, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think indeed, yeah all good, all right.
Speaker 2:So we're going to start with the sixties, which is patch. So patch is going to talk about the sixties and um, yes, this is your moment. Let's just try to put the microphone down. To patch is scrotum, um, I tried.
Speaker 5:That was no microphone.
Speaker 2:Uh, so patch, take it away please. May I talk to us about the sixties.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I will talk to you about the sixties. Um, been told sort of you know, come up with some things to talk about for about 15 minutes about the sixties. To be quite honest, I don't need to. There's one word influence by two words beginning. There's quite a lot of words. All right, I'm going to talk about quite a lot then. So we probably have about 15 minutes.
Speaker 2:Nobody expects the Spanish.
Speaker 3:Um, yeah, I've got the sixties. Uh, for those of people that do know me, uh, playing a band, I play guitar. What got me to play guitar, what got me to, um, get into music, really was the sixties, and the reason behind it is variety, massive, massive amount of variety. Um, you go back to the early sixties, you just think it's sort of, uh, it's, it's a bit naff at that sort of time, but it wasn't. You had Bob Dylan coming through with the folk music movement. You had the girl groups, the do what groups, um, the Sharals, those type of groups. Then, of course, after that you had the Beatles massive seismic moment. Yeah, who, one at one.
Speaker 5:This yeah, whatever happened to him.
Speaker 3:Well, I need a band. Wings could have been.
Speaker 2:Hey, this is why I love you so much. Um yeah.
Speaker 3:So they? They came on the scene and music changed, in my opinion and quite a few other people's opinions, um, but at that time, were they the group that everyone thought they turned out to be? No, they weren't. They were in a mix of other groups that come out. That time you had the Mersey beat senior Jerry and the pacemaker Dave Clark five in the UK that were just as big as the Beatles when they came out.
Speaker 3:They were, they were on a um a pile with them, but then you had Motown that came alongside from that as well.
Speaker 2:So I'm really interested in it. Why do you think the Beatles did then break free from that pack? And I didn't know, the day of club five was big in this country, what? Why do you think the Beatles managed to break free from their name? What else would become this global phenomenon?
Speaker 3:I think, when you listen, in my opinion, and in my opinion, when you listen to their music and that period 63, 64, the beat, the beat combos of guitars and drums, um, but then after that they just went into different gear and, um, when you look there, there uh, recording period, and this isn't about the Beatles, this is a 60s question.
Speaker 4:But, they were the.
Speaker 3:Beatles. I mean from October 62 to January 1970, that was their time that they were together as a professional recording group and in such, in such a short space of time, they had such a massive catalog of different types of music. Now, whereas the Jerry and the pacemakers and the day club five, they stuck in that beat combo, they didn't really change, they didn't they didn't evolve Okay, so sorry about that, I sideline you.
Speaker 3:So in my opinion that's why. That's why they moved away and then other groups sort of joined. The stones are probably similar.
Speaker 3:You talk about the stones. They came out in 64, a little bit later 63, 64. And again they changed. I mean they started off as a blues combo, you know, and um, from then on that they've evolved into that and um, so for me the 60s isn't just a Beatles and the stones, there's everything else that goes with it.
Speaker 3:You know, you started off with with guitar groups and you started off with with that sort of thing, but then just, it just rose so rapidly and then moving forward, and now every one of you tonight is going to be talking about a decade. There's no way that any decade cannot be influenced by the 60s, absolutely not. And um, so for me it's not just the fact that it was first because the fifties would, they had rock and roll, but then you had so much different stuff coming into the sixties. You had festivals, you had Woodstock, you had the Isle of Wight festival, so you had the birth of that, you had the birth of Stadium Rock, um, all the things that sort of grew later on, I mean when the Beatles and all those groups in the early sort of sixties they were playing with PA systems that were probably worse than what I play in my band.
Speaker 1:What was it? The animals were slashing the speakers in their amps. Kinks, the kinks to get a distorted sound.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Um, and, and they literally just had the band PA that they were playing in sort of the small clubs with. They were then going in playing stadiums with playing sort of Shade Stadium and places like that with it. Um, and then they realized that that had to evolve and the other groups coming through. You had the birth of synthesizers, really the first sort of late sixties. You had the first synthesizer, hammond organ or something. Oh yeah, yeah, hammond organ, but you had the actual sym.
Speaker 3:the MOOG synthesizer came in in sort of the late sixties Sort of.
Speaker 2:That's what you'd have to stop. You keep talking to it, you finish yeah, but um, I'm going to put money down that Johnny is shitting himself right now. This, this is very intelligent, very erigite. Um, you've clearly put a lot of thought into this. I'm fairly confident John's sitting there going. All I had was I liked it. Look at his lip. I'm right, aren't I?
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah, I know I'm sitting there thinking oh shit.
Speaker 4:Beautiful. Sorry, mate, no, no, no, it's really good.
Speaker 5:That's why.
Speaker 2:I'm sitting there silent thinking Get his brain working. Now I'm going down to that. He's just to be away from you. I couldn't even see you because Scott's in the way, but I'm thinking, oh, he's a little face right now he's thinking fucking hell. I was just going to talk about, like you know, oasis.
Speaker 3:Sorry, pat, this is really really good stuff, mate, no so, yes, you had the different instrumentation, you had the different types of music and, as I say, I mean, if you look at the Beatles career as a stamp for the 60s, so starting with Love Me Do and finishing with Let it Be and everything in between that they did, that to me, is why the 60s is such an important part of the whole of music, and I really do think it's influenced every single piece of music that's come after it with regards to how things are done, and you can trace everything back through to the 60s, really, in my opinion. So that's why it's a variety, it's the influence. You've got heavy metal coming through. You had the likes of Steppenwolf, you had the likes of Led Zeppelin, so everything that followed on from that and, as I say, you had effectively synthesized the music being born. It was all there.
Speaker 2:It was all there in the 60s. Lost points for not mentioning Van Halen. Then, when you saw that music coming through, no, they went in the 60s. They were 63, weren't they?
Speaker 3:That's why I think of going to an extra point there. Ever nice, yeah, look at.
Speaker 5:Churky over there. I thought he was going to get one over on me and he just sat there and blurted out a complete lie.
Speaker 4:I don't think so. It's a calm, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
Speaker 2:Oh, oh, oh, oh, it's perfect, it's brilliant, I just so hope they might pick that up, Scott.
Speaker 1:So well, will you sort of get over it now if I don't mention Van Halen, because it's been mentioned already by you in the wrong decade.
Speaker 5:Yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:To be honest, if you were hanging on a cliff edge by your fingertips, I would stamp on them just because it would be funny to see how angry you get. You know you'll fucks whatever. Yeah, so fair point. Yeah, maybe pricking myself yet again, you know. But hey, I don't mind, I could take it happens. Here's the joke. Perhaps that was brilliant that was really really interesting. Thank you, no problem at all.
Speaker 2:Guys, anybody else like John, anybody else like why, would it say? It sounds to me like what you're saying is it was as much to do with the evolution of music and the many different styles that you live the room. There are many different styles that it's like a petulant teacher. Yes, I've been embarrassed, I have to try and get back some cool points.
Speaker 4:By acting like a petulant teacher. Yes, will they ever call you?
Speaker 2:love that role play. You love that role play. Naughty school by Johnny and headmaster Andy.
Speaker 4:What have you been watching on the internet Too much.
Speaker 2:You know, the other good thing about this is that there was wasn't really laughing because we were on the tables and he take a breath and he was like where the fuck is he going with this? I'm uncomfortable. Edit button. Edit button. Yeah, so it's much to do with how much music evolved. Like you know, I don't know. I mean I'm not getting involved in the debate per se tonight because I know fuck all about music. You know that's just demonstrated by the van Van Halen, my favorite band of all time. Didn't even know when they were formed. But it seems to me like from what you're saying is that maybe 30, 40, 50s was a gradual kind of evolution in music. It was an explosion in the 60s, totally Different instruments and different sounds.
Speaker 3:And yeah, a different. I mean you can look at any year in the 60s and a different type of music that coming out every year. So, yeah, Brilliant. And then also the other thing is longevity really for the acts that are still going now. They're talking today on the radio about a Stones album being released. You know, so Average age of 164.
Speaker 2:Why do we think they're still at this? Are there any big Stones fans around the table?
Speaker 3:No, not, particularly not as a band.
Speaker 2:Fuck about what you think after You're not even here. I was more interested in just their lifestyle.
Speaker 4:I think that was interesting.
Speaker 3:They're still how, they're all still here. Always, keep for it.
Speaker 1:He's pickled.
Speaker 2:He's still breathing, but that was kind of my point.
Speaker 3:That was um uh why do you think they're still doing it? I don't need the money.
Speaker 2:Surely you want to go home and put your feet up, retired, just like in the own watch, like home's under the hammer.
Speaker 1:Which one of my wife shall I go and visit today?
Speaker 3:But the thing is, it's all they've ever known.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 6:I also think there's a bit of thing about it to do with like adulation, and when you've had that sort of success on stage, you want to just keep doing it. That's how you get your high. You're going to keep doing it for years and years and years. They're filling stadiums. So you know why not.
Speaker 2:I guess I'd like our college band, hey John, jump the gun. Exactly Legendary band. They were in college, legendary shit. Uh, anybody got any questions about what you said? Anything you want to push back on or agree with or any thoughts? No, I think it's absolutely right.
Speaker 1:I think the 60s was an explosion of, uh, of new music, and there's no doubt about that. It was, you know. Yeah, like you say, you had the Elvis of the 50s, um, and and the rock and roll kind of beginning of that From an outsider looking in, because I'm not doing a decade but 60s for me, just smashed it down.
Speaker 4:Van Halen, they were in the 60s, they were in the 60s.
Speaker 1:One of the most famous bands for the 60s. Don't worry, don't worry, johnny.
Speaker 2:You'll, you'll, you'll get your chance to have the lowest losing score in a bit. All right, and in my mind, I'm the one who's going to see these.
Speaker 4:I thought you weren't judging again Again.
Speaker 2:I again I know Robo right, robo at the time is going to get like minus 50 and he'll be pissed by then and he might get it, might get a little bit unpeeped. He'll just give up with it and then at some point in three o'clock in the morning he's going to something and go the fuck. Did that happen?
Speaker 5:And I'll get an angry kid. I want to see those scores.
Speaker 2:Patch.
Speaker 5:Thank you.
Speaker 2:So next piece to artists could be bands solo, whatever the really mean, a lot of shit that they create at the gate. And every week I say this does anybody else want to take over? Clearly not fit for the job. No one ever puts the hand up. One day someone will, and then I'm going to absolutely panic.
Speaker 1:Because nobody wants to be on the main mic. And then have you sitting there picking off.
Speaker 2:You boys are on fire. Tonight. I tell you, you boys are on fire, yes, patch. So two bands, artists, two songs that mean something to you. You represent a decade.
Speaker 3:Okay, well, to me obviously it is big no surprise to anybody, but it'd be the Beatles and why they mean so much to me. They got me into playing guitar, they influenced me into playing guitar with the Beatles and probably quite a few million people. And the other artist is Bob Dylan. For me, because of again, you look back at his catalogue of work and I mean you can buy any Bob Dylan cover album and you think this is a magnificent song. Not necessarily his versions of the song, but the people he's influenced as he goes through. So they're the two artists, the Beatles and Dylan. Have they really got Dylan?
Speaker 2:Scott, do you like?
Speaker 7:I've got to be honest. I can understand he's a poet and I love it, yeah. But at the same time, yeah, his music, for me personally, is something in nothing. But I think I'm just a little bit too young to hit that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, I'll get that. I'll get that completely. But, as I say, if you buy a covers album, you'll have Absolutely.
Speaker 1:He sounded like he was singing through a kazoo, didn't he?
Speaker 3:Oh, he sounded like a hoover playing through a kazoo, but then you have other bands like the.
Speaker 4:Birds. I love it so much Brilliant yeah.
Speaker 3:The Birds massively influenced Bob Dylan. You listen to their stuff so it's the influence of him on other bands and artists.
Speaker 7:Hendrix, hendrix, all along the watchtower. I think it certainly creates where your parents' influences were, as well, yeah, 100% From where? Because my mum was very much into.
Speaker 3:Motown and some of that, so I was very influenced with that side. Yeah, hock, 100%. She was into Hock.
Speaker 7:Nobody can throw that in. She might listen to this Wow.
Speaker 2:She does.
Speaker 1:You say she was into Hock, hock was into her.
Speaker 2:Okay, maybe not. I'm going to scorch there. He always set the rules of engagement tonight Never be a yeah. I had a really good singer then as well, even better than that one. I forgot that.
Speaker 5:No.
Speaker 2:Kind of be that good then yeah, oh no, hendrix, you mentioned Hendrix. Yeah, fuck Hendrix. If Hendrix hadn't have died when he did, he'd be like just another guitarist. He's not Fuck off, he's not that good. I just thought because he died young All.
Speaker 5:I'm going to say is the door's been shit man? All I'm going to say is Jim.
Speaker 2:Morrison was a pretentious sub-cult leader, pathetic pseudo-spiritualist twat with long hair who didn't have to wear a shirt on the stage because he died young.
Speaker 1:What decade it was in. All I'm going to say is based on what the you don't know who your real parents are.
Speaker 2:It doesn't stop you loving them.
Speaker 7:That's true. They're out there somewhere.
Speaker 2:I bet they're Welsh. That's gosh.
Speaker 7:Was that fine.
Speaker 1:Do you want?
Speaker 2:to share that with the class? No, no it's fine.
Speaker 1:I did try, I did try, but you wouldn't show that teacher base.
Speaker 4:What the hell have you been?
Speaker 5:watching.
Speaker 2:Patch two songs.
Speaker 3:Did you want to make your point, Andy? It was just Sorry.
Speaker 1:What I was going to say was at the beginning of this sort of session, logan said I don't know anything about music, and I think he's just proved it.
Speaker 4:I also thought he wasn't going to give his own opinion.
Speaker 1:That's never going to happen. We all know, Logan don't we.
Speaker 2:That's a good show, isn't it? Two songs. This guy just kicked me up and down as if to say fuck off. I meant emotionally Same thing. Yes, yeah, you're right, sorry boys. Yeah, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, robert, you're trying to make a point I didn't notice. I apologize, mate Patched two songs.
Speaker 3:Two songs. We've already mentioned them and one of my favorite songs of all time is Bother Stones. I say I don't particularly like them as a band now, but some of their music and Paint it Black for me, very good. If I'm summing up the 60s, that to me sums up everything.
Speaker 1:It takes in Vietnam and everything doesn't it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Why. It's just everything about it. It's just for me. It's that mid-60s period For me, 65, 66, my favorite two sort of period of the 60s, and that one's smack bang in the middle of it. It just sums up everything for me. I don't know, it's just emotive and probably because I watched Torra Duty, Absolutely Cool. And second song, which is a bit of a strange one but it's not as well, is Steppenwolf Born to Be Wild. Hey, nice, Because when you hear it you just think, yeah, here we go.
Speaker 1:So recognizable, isn't it?
Speaker 3:Yeah, and you sing along to it, you shout along to it, you have your windows down if you're driving and if you're on a motorbike, we're not that sums up the 60s.
Speaker 2:Awesome mate, thanks mate. And sitting here, dicking here, throwing in every two seconds, despite what I said, not the most severe opinion, really really good. That was great. Very, very, very quickly for viewers, listeners, it'll be seamless. But we're going to have a quick break. So if you want to have a cigarette can or get a drink, and please, boys, send me your WhatsApp out of five for. Patch's spectacular contribution Cheers, patch, okay, patch, beautiful Once more.
Speaker 3:Thank you very much.
Speaker 2:We just had a quick drink refill break and toilet comfort break which, the magic of the listeners' home, was seamless, but in reality, because of the way the dick splash here, edits, it probably won't be.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Rob your. Next year we'll talk about the 70s. I will.
Speaker 1:Go, I am going to, so, thanks.
Speaker 2:Thanks, rob, really insightful, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1:Let's move on the feeding into all of this, the 70s stuff, because it's basically I'm going to sort of just briefly touch on a lot of the stuff that you already said so, because the 60s was the best decade for rock. There's no doubt about it. It was the advent of it, where it really developed, and all that kind of stuff. So, but it was like the counterculture, wasn't it? Sort of the 60s counterculture. So you had Dylan, the Beatles, stones, soul, motown and, as you said, the festivals like Woodstock. They were the initial blast into the stratosphere for that, and I love the other white stories. They're brilliant, it was so disastrous, it was absolutely fantastic. But also in the 60s you had all the social struggles, like the civil rights movement, which fed a lot of the music, especially the likes of Dylan and things like that. So it's like you've got all these political issues and you've got all the civil rights and socials, what Go on, go on.
Speaker 2:This is great, so you're great. 70s You're going to get to the 70s in a minute. Well, like what you were here for.
Speaker 1:Anyway, moving on. But the 70s is the key to understanding popular music in the modern era. Oh sorry, You're such a prick.
Speaker 2:Like I always say to you, the only person that looks like a prick is me.
Speaker 4:Then it worry you but everybody knows that it doesn't hurt to be reminded.
Speaker 1:Anyway. So where was I? So yeah, music really came into its own into the 70s as an artistic cultural movement, Because all of the stuff that was pioneered in the 60s was then enhanced and improved upon and elaborated and just experimented with. It was a mental era. You look at some of the stuff that went on there. It was just nuts they did all sorts of shit. You know, you got the likes of Kiss with their outfits and all this kind of stuff. It was just crazy. There was this and Halon, or was that a bit?
Speaker 1:stayed 80s. I think they're around in the late 70s.
Speaker 4:We're getting there.
Speaker 1:We're getting closer.
Speaker 1:We are getting closer, so I think with after the Beatles split in the 60s. It kind of in my mind it kind of sort of froze the 60s as that sort of initial period of exploration and what's the word I'm looking for. I can't think of it, but it's where they first tried things and then in the 70s they really went to town. So you've got the angst of punk. All of this leads from people like the Beatles. There's no doubt about it. You cannot look at a band today and you cannot go back to somewhere like the 60s and go. I can see an influence there.
Speaker 2:My dad, always used to say that he believed that without Buddy Holly there wouldn't have been a Beatles. I know this isn't Reverend's what you're saying, I'm just curious. As I said genuinely, I'm just a gobb on a stick. I don't know much about music, so I remember my dad saying, though, that he felt Buddy Holly influenced. Well, you're a fan of Buddy.
Speaker 1:Holly, are you, do you agree? Yeah, we spoke about it last time.
Speaker 3:I was on, we spoke about Buddy Holly and he was massive, massive influence to me and to all music, I think. Again you look at short careers. I mean, he died in 21-22, I think he was when he died. You look at his songbook and yeah, 100% Buddy Holly, to me Perfect.
Speaker 2:Sorry, I was just curious. Can we talk about the Beatles influence? Yeah, yeah, I agree. With my limited knowledge, I'd say that actually you can trace that back to Buddy Holly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely. And all of those people would have been influenced by people before them and then everybody after them was influenced by them. So it's just it's basically taking that battle and carrying it forward. So 60s lead to lead into the 70s really, you know, obviously really smoothly, and you've got all of these influences from the 60s that everybody loves and really enjoys. And it's that initial experimentation that led to the 70s where it really exploded.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, so they came into and a lot of the bands that you mentioned like I'm not going to talk about the Beatles so much because you know more about than I do, so you probably argue the toss. But the Stones specifically, they were around in the 60s but their seminal albums like Sticky Fingers, things like that, that was in the 70s. So they really improved their sound, they mastered their art and then in the 70s they really exploded. So their popularity was massive then and it's not to take anything away from the 60s at all, because that's where they originated. But I think there's a lot of bands XR Main Street was the other one and they're just, even today, their albums that people pick up and play and they will listen to end to end they almost sort of talking about the 60s was honing the craft, experimenting honing the sound, the 70s was honing the craft, experimenting, finding the sound, and the 70s was when that kind of reached its fruition.
Speaker 2:So maybe my son's who's talking about them so in the 60s were really good. It wasn't till the 70s when they did their most seminal albums and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:It's like a lot of things, somebody comes out and they do something different, and then and I'm gonna liken this to cars and motorbikes Obviously, cars, you know motorbikes, things like that they were invented a long time before, but it wasn't until the likes of the Japanese got hold of them and they really started to improve things massively, because people have like a sort of set mindset from where they were created. So they do things a certain way and then somebody else outside of that gets hold of it and goes I've got a better idea, I'm gonna take your idea and I'm gonna smash it out the park. And I think that's basically the premise of the 70s. It was this you just look at the people that came out. You've got James Brown, marvin Gaye, you've got Stevie Wonder. Okay, it was Motown, but it was the 70s where he really excelled, which was crazy because he came, was in. I don't know how old he is, but when he first came out, which I assume was the 60s, he was 12. Little.
Speaker 3:Stevie Wonder yeah.
Speaker 1:He was 12 and he was performing and recording. It's like mental yeah.
Speaker 2:There's a great thing on Instagram. I think it's you, didn't I? Where's Dr Dre and Kevin?
Speaker 5:Hart.
Speaker 2:Yeah talk about Stevie Wonder and you cut long story short, basically talking about like Dr Dre working with Stevie Wonder. He's Stevie Wonder. I've found you like four in the morning and just found you at like all kinds of odd times. It came in the heart said well, look to be fair, stevie Wonder doesn't know what the fucking time is, does he?
Speaker 1:So, yeah, sorry. So you got James Brown, Marvin Gaye. Hip hop started till in the 70s. That was the beginning of that Prog Rock, zeppelin, sabbath Well, again, zeppelin was the 60s, but their seminal albums of 70s, weren't they? And then you got AC DC, queen, the Eagles. You can't argue with those bands, they're just huge. They're huge.
Speaker 7:Please say Fleetwood Mac. It's my favorite album. Might do, I might do.
Speaker 1:I mentioned them, everybody mentioned. So yeah, elton John, fleetwood Mac. So you've got huge, huge, huge, massive bands that people like yourself obviously are massive fans of today. I know so many people who are absolutely passionate about Fleetwood Mac and I've never been a massive fan. Although I appreciate a lot of their songs, I've never been a huge fan of them.
Speaker 1:Now, the one thing that really, I think sums up the 70s for me is disco, and that even resonates today, don't it? Because if you go to a nightclub and they put on a Jackson 5 or they put on, I don't know, the Isley Brothers or something like that, it's a floorfiller. It's massive, huge, and they are brilliant, brilliant, brilliant songs the Motown stuff the upbeat Motown from the 70s was just amazing. The Bee Gees so all of these people are all influenced by the 60s, but they're huge in the 70s. Silla back, yeah, moving on.
Speaker 1:So, I did touch on punk and hip hop, but electronic music started in the 70s as well, with people like Kraftwerk. They were that crazy German band, weren't they Mental? But that's where. That's the kernel of source for that whole thing. And then I don't think there's much argument with, like main acts from the 70s if you don't mention Bowie. Bowie's massive. He took whatever was being done by the Stones and the Beatles and all this lot and then he just kind of went into a mental hospital and then came out with some weird stuff. But it's amazing, it was brilliant and it just changed the way that people looked at music. So I think you want to ask the other question about which acts girls just about to go straight into that, but what I was going to say you know, I love poking the angry bear because he's so delightful.
Speaker 2:He's dangerous because he's genuinely gets really angry. But I have to say that was super. That was really really good. Thanks mate, I really, really enjoyed listening to that. I thought no one was going to travel patch after that, but you know you're back in there, yeah, but it's the 60s that leads into the 70s.
Speaker 5:So we're a team, so we should combine our scores.
Speaker 7:If I haven't won, then we will. Oh yeah, fair enough, that makes sense.
Speaker 4:Sounds a good deal to me. I'm still a Johnny shit himself even more.
Speaker 2:Now John's gonna have 10 seconds again. My mummy's fine, I have to go home. Yeah, brilliant, robert. Thank you so much, mate, I was really good. So yes, two, two bands or artists and two songs. That means something to resonate for you, or that tickly somehow.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think. I think the first one was kind of a no brainer because he's kind of been a constant thing, in that his music has just been around ever since I can remember, and it's Stevie Wonder. Superstition, I think, is just a phenomenal track. It's just amazing, do you remember? There's that guy, john Snow, I think he was an investigative reporter for the Z2, john Snow's at BBC. There's a big, really tall. There's a really tall guy, maybe it's not John Snow.
Speaker 2:John Snow, the tall guy, used to do news night and all kind of stuff like that. This guy was out in the fields night and then he moved to.
Speaker 1:John Bishop, I can't remember, but whoever this guy is, he wrote a book and I read this book and he said that he was in Afghanistan or somewhere in the in the back of beyond, in the Far East, somewhere. And he said he was, he was dressed I think he was dressed in a burqa because he was trying to get somewhere to cover some story and it was all secret and blah, blah, blah. And he said he was walking along and there was like all these sort of bed of intents and he was on this dirt road and then all he could hear in the background was and he's like I can hear Stevie Wonder Superstition blasting out one of these tanks and it's like completely in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 2:Anyway, that's, anyway, that's fine.
Speaker 1:Next one was the second one. Next one was really hard because there's so many. There's so many songs from lots of different people is like Tom Jones is. I don't like a lot of Bowie stuff. I must admit I'm not a massive fan of Bowie, but there's a lot of his stuff that I do like. But I'm going to squeeze in. I'm going to squeeze in Hendricks, because he's always been a big influence of mine and he died in the 70s so he's still there.
Speaker 2:So and then ask me honestly did you, did you put that in before I made a tit of myself earlier on?
Speaker 1:Did I? Yeah? Yeah, he's always been an influence for me.
Speaker 2:Okay, he didn't get the joke. Then that's fine, because you meant you can knock him down. I can't remember.
Speaker 1:And it's half out the call back too far away.
Speaker 2:I can't get that. Sorry about Hendricks. Why, oh Hendrick?
Speaker 1:I don't know why. To be honest, it's just something about his music. When I first heard it I was like I really like that. It's just absolutely blew my socks off and I thought that is great.
Speaker 2:I really like that. That's the whole point. This is what. If it resonates for you, Okay and songwise songwise from Hendricks is just so many.
Speaker 1:There's one that I really like and it's easy rider because I just like the way it sort of fall you know, just falls out of his guitar is brilliant patches nodding safely in the cream, and I think it's a, it's one of his most well known ones. There's hundreds of his songs that are really well known, but that one, I think it's off Rainbow Bridge album, something like that, and it just, I don't know, just love it. I think it's brilliant.
Speaker 2:I'll band the college in a job with a band of college, with John, not with patch. We all know why we used to do Jimmy Hayes, jimmy Hendricks number purple haze and I never knew the lyrics why you should?
Speaker 2:be was the band and start playing this. I can't remember the beat to this day, but the band and start playing the song and I'm in. Purple haze are in my brain and that's anything I knew, so I just like it's close to my phone as possible. Then, and then I go purple haze are in my brain, my lips on the mic and distorted, as if it was some sort of artistic expression. I've got a keyboard behind me muttering, I can learn no words.
Speaker 4:So that's why you do it, jimmy Hendricks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, good point Now. I just look now. Just been a cock earlier on everyone I should be. Hendricks is one of the greatest musicians you know, just my job here is to be a break, you know.
Speaker 1:I've just got a question for patch right now. This is this is nothing to do with this. When you're playing and do you ever get like a brain freeze, whatever, and you just forget the lyrics, have you got a technique to deal with it?
Speaker 3:Yes, I have got a technique. I've got the lyrics in front of me.
Speaker 1:Oh, you have, don't you? Yeah, of course you do, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Not on every song Some songs I know so well and Ed, and ones I forget regularly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you get the verses mixed up, johnny, be good ones.
Speaker 3:I stopped the song with way and ask the audience what the next line was. They told me we're back back into the song.
Speaker 1:So yeah, yeah, just need a little bit of a mmm, but I was just wondering if there's anything, just a little bit of a little bit of a worse time is when I'm thinking about the next song, yeah, and then I suddenly think where am I on this one?
Speaker 3:And it's suddenly right that's when I lose it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, okay, okay. Chaps second song, that was it. Was that easy rider? Jimi Hendrix, good Good, this isn't it. It's not two songs, no two songs. Supercision.
Speaker 1:So Supercision. Stevie Wonder, I thought that was your artist. Have I lost? Yeah?
Speaker 2:you completely lost it. Sorry, mate, it's the sustained, various ongoing attacks I've had on me all night. This can populate in me and and attack. No, I said I don't hesitate to poke Robo because I don't know it's dangerous, because he genuinely does get angry. I also find it quite funny because, like you know, we're not going to change this just because you're in a bad mood.
Speaker 5:But you know I'm going to start being a prick.
Speaker 2:So, you know, it's like the snake eating his own tail, Exactly so.
Speaker 4:That was great mate. Thank you so much mate.
Speaker 2:I was really really good. Generally, we're going to go on to the 80s. Next is do we need to have a quick I think one of quick, very, very quick drink and show Blake break? Yeah, the time is against us. Quick refill, break folks, and then it John Bishop is a bitch can't wait for that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, john Patch and Johnny, please send me your WhatsApp scores at five back in a sec.
Speaker 2:Okay, robbie. Yeah, like I said, mate, you know I love winding you up and being an asshole, but credit where credit's due. That was that was really really good. Thanks, John. You're next and you've been very quiet, safer.
Speaker 6:I'm always quite quiet.
Speaker 2:I've heard you. In certain situations you've been very vocal.
Speaker 1:He's a very considered man. I find John very considered.
Speaker 2:John was my first ever friend in Poulsworth. Any story Do?
Speaker 6:you consider us still friends.
Speaker 1:It depends what happens next. Oh, do you, John Are you going to mention Van Halen? If you don't mention Van Halen, he's going to get upset, yeah.
Speaker 2:Bobby Moore used to talk about Duncan Edwards. You know Duncan Edwards who died in the Munich air crash, right? Bobby Moore used to say that Duncan Edwards was the only footballer he ever met. That made him feel inferior. Right, perhaps you're excluded. He's your semi pro. John is the only amateur singer that I've known and I've sung with who's ever made me think I can't sing at all because of how good he is. Right, and I can remember the ego, like mine. That's quite the compliment Amazing singing voice, john has also heard a lot, doesn't it Beautiful?
Speaker 2:No, not really, because it's, you know, because I'm happy for the fucking prick that he's so talented. Now, john has a beautiful singing voice.
Speaker 6:We're still friends.
Speaker 1:Sorry, I remember when we did something together and you two were singing together and you had a really nice harmony between you, like you and Patch.
Speaker 7:Yeah, it was Barbie, it was amazing.
Speaker 2:And so, yes, john, my very good, very old friend in terms of years, not old in age, because we're the same age, and we are now. Yeah, the big five. A beautiful, beautiful man, you'll go, john Eighties hitters baby.
Speaker 6:Okay, let's do it. So I guess I can't really start talking about the eighties without going back to some of what Robbo said about the seventies.
Speaker 1:And then, even then, you can't go back to the sixties.
Speaker 2:Well, Johnny, you're so funny.
Speaker 6:It's true that the decades did overlap in musical styles, so you've got disco from the seventies fading out, glam rock, which Robbo never mentioned because probably not a highlight of the seventies, to be honest. I mentioned Kiss.
Speaker 5:Okay, you did, have you met him, though.
Speaker 6:Do you know?
Speaker 2:that's because they were the sixties right.
Speaker 6:But like Rob, I was saying about the 70s stars, there were also stars in the eighties that were sort of coming through from the seventies that I would argue could you could potentially say they were even bigger in the eighties like. Queen Yep Bowie. The jam started in the late seventies. The police started in the late seventies. Big eighties, bad madness started in the very late seventies. Another massive eighties band. So yeah, I think there's a lot of crossover.
Speaker 4:Oh.
Speaker 6:God.
Speaker 6:But, yeah, I mean, I was only seven year old when the eighties started, so my my sort of knowledge of eighties music is more recent, rather than what I was listening to at the time, because when you're seven you're just listening to what your parents are playing. So that's probably why I remember bands like the jam, because my dad was really into the jam in the early seventies and madness, the whole scar sort of thing. And it wasn't until the later eighties when I got into music and you get to the age where you can sort of buy your own records.
Speaker 1:They are our price. Yeah.
Speaker 6:HMB, your men's Woolworths, Woolworths, yeah, I think you can even buy records in boots once upon a time.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I think you could yeah.
Speaker 6:So yeah, but the eighties had a whole new load of sounds that weren't there in the seventies, weren't there in the sixties, and the reason for that is the technology that was available in the eighties. It was a whole new genre of music coming through. You had the like new wave sort of synth pop, hip hop, carrying on from the seventies.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 6:You had the new Romantics, you know like your Duran, duran Human League. And then you know you got your classic power ballad from America. All the big bands, what survivor.
Speaker 1:And stuff it was like White Snake for the eighties and stuff like that. Was that White Snake? They were eighties weren't they, yeah, they were.
Speaker 2:Rock-wise they were, but then they morphed, late eighties, late nineties, more into like a soft poodle rock band. An aficionado once told me that that's what she'd be called. Yeah.
Speaker 6:I think as well. If you would just sort of go up to your average girl in the street and say, tell me the biggest mega stars of all time in music, you'd probably hear names like Madonna, prince, michael Jackson, and you know, the list goes on from the eighties. There's some big, big names. Oh, huge, yeah. And Phil Collins, yeah, see, it's funny, isn't it? Because I actually quite like Phil these days, but I went through a phase of really disliking him. Yeah, they were mega band, weren't they they?
Speaker 1:were.
Speaker 6:Genesis seventies I think so.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they started in the sixties, really.
Speaker 5:Wow.
Speaker 1:Like status quo. Yeah, Gabriel left them, didn't?
Speaker 7:he, and then yeah.
Speaker 6:So yeah, I mean, music was changing in a big way in the eighties. So you could say that music was programmed a lot more in the eighties rather than played. So you had, like, your drum machines, you had your sort of synthesizers and everything was becoming a bit more technological and a bit more complicated to play and also it was more affordable. So instead of just having a few bands, like they were in the sixties, big bands in the eighties, there was like a massive explosion of bands like big bands from Britain were making it in America. You had the advent of like MTV started up in the eighties. So you've got all the. You know, the music video became a thing when it wasn't a thing before.
Speaker 1:That's a really good point about huge in the eighties. The number of bands is what you're talking about is is actually a really valid point, because in the sixties there was a lot of bands but it was only a few that were really popular and able to make it, and then it sort of just kind of grew exponentially until you've got like this massive plethora of bands. Everybody can produce music, and then, yeah, I think I think that's a really really valid point. I'm going to argue that point Go on.
Speaker 3:I don't agree. I don't agree with that point. You've got okay, we'll list them out. You've got the Beatles. You've got the Stones. You've got the Supremes.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, no, but I'm not talking about just the big ones. Well, okay, so just it was easy, it was more accessible to create music.
Speaker 3:You've got the likes of Loving, spoonful, happy Together and all songs like that. So that's my argument. Thank you very much, but you, john Jason Donovan, did that.
Speaker 2:Jason Donovan did happy together, I remember in the eighties imagine you and me.
Speaker 5:How was Jason Donovan Prick?
Speaker 2:I see patches very quickly caught onto the vibe of the show.
Speaker 1:Sorry, John.
Speaker 6:I think it was more accessible as well. There was much more of a market for music in the eighties than there was in previous decades as well. So you know there's a big amount of music out there. There's loads of people buying it. You have the advent of the cassette as well. Is that around in the seventies? Was that an eighties thing?
Speaker 2:I think it was sort of late seventies In the eighties.
Speaker 6:I have a distinct memory as a child of recording the top 40 on a cassette, trying to stop it before someone started talking Broke broke shut up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, those were good times. Those were good times, it was yeah.
Speaker 5:Love album. Sorry, love album. Mate I might have asked, we know very well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they love tape Kev. You know Kev and obviously you know who he is. You know Kev from Kali.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I remember one night he used to come around mine and we'd play championship manager until the early hours and then he would get back on his push bike with his little Walkman and cycle home. One night he was so pissed he went, put one leg over the side of the bike and carried on going over, fell over into the road and as he fell over into the road, his Walkman bounced open and the tape fell out.
Speaker 2:So I'm going to help him out. And I picked up the tape and it was a homemade mixtape and the type of it he had written in Feltier Pen was midnight tracks, but tracks were spelled T-R-A-X, obviously.
Speaker 4:I looked at that and I went.
Speaker 2:The fuck is this.
Speaker 4:And he went.
Speaker 2:It's just, you know. It's just what I like to listen to when it's late and I'm in a mid-night track, mid-night tracks and I never knew what was on the album, but I'd have bet there'd have been, you know, there'd have been some. This is what the early 19s Martin McCutcheon. Sorry, John, carry on buddy.
Speaker 6:Yeah, so I mean I've got a little list here of what my sort of favourite bands were from the 80s, before I go on to my favourite songs.
Speaker 4:my favourite bands I've got a bit of a list, Sure man.
Speaker 6:These are bands that I loved. So Pet Shop Boys, massive band, hit after hit after hit in the 80s. Eurydmix. Annie Lennox, fantastic singer, the classic 80s kind of sound. Madness again loved Madness Wham. When Wham came on the scene they were just huge. It was like, just you know, you had the, the, the fan girls going crazy for these bands in ways that sort of wasn't so I know, with the Beatles you had the, the scenes with girls faint all over the place, but in the 80s these, these guys were just massive icons and just sort of took the world by storm. Who else have I got the Thompson twins, another one of my favourite 80s bands. Eurasia, another band's like, hit after hit after hit. Love Eurasia. And then finally, logan will love this one. New Kids on the Block appeared in the 80s.
Speaker 6:And myself and Logan were massive New Kids on the Block fans.
Speaker 2:That was. That was early 90s. Okay, do you want to go there? Do you still have the videos that mean you've filmed the past sales miming?
Speaker 6:to the New Kids on the Block.
Speaker 3:No, I think they were recorded, John. You need these. You need these.
Speaker 2:If they're, if they're evident, Find them, John. If I close my eyes, Rob, I'll send them. You need these. Sorry, right have you still got them. We were talking about you, sorry.
Speaker 6:I think my parents have still got some old like eight millimetre cam films. Yeah, but I don't know if one of us is going to say you don't, but I've got a can of Wernhery.
Speaker 2:But yes, yes, we, yeah, we did. We used to film ourselves like, yeah, dancing and trying to mind my long to New Kids on the Block Wow, yeah, we were, we were 17. That's, if you said 13,. I thought that was fine. Yes, I met John when I was 16, 16, 17.
Speaker 6:Well, we were talented as well. We used to sit there and set up.
Speaker 2:Subutio. Someone was John. John had a load of Subutio stuff and he had quite a bit of it, so we used to sit there and we'd spend about an hour setting up. Subutio getting like the spectators, the stand and everything ready. We'd play for five minutes and then we'd probably go. This is shit. Let's put the Mega Drive on. Subutio was awesome, man.
Speaker 4:Never get the hang of it. Never get never get, never get the hang of it. It's a flicky game, flicky, yeah, flicky. Very good.
Speaker 6:So, yeah, go back to the 80s. Another invention that we haven't talked about tonight yet is the Sony Walkman. In the 80s, for the first time ever, you could walk down the street listening to music, and that's a thing that you can do now, that we take for granted, with your headphones. You couldn't do it back then.
Speaker 1:Well, you've now got the entire back catalogue of the entire world of music on your phone.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 1:For eight, nine months. The music.
Speaker 6:even in the 60s and the 70s and the 80s music was special, wasn't it? Back in the 80s, it was something that was a bit of a treat. You can't just like. You say you can't get up Spotify, or it's the accessibility that you're talking about Exactly.
Speaker 1:And I think maybe, like you were talking about the 80s being like there was more accessibility to it, but it was more prosperous time as well, wasn't it? So it's a case of 60s was just sort of well, 50s and 60s was quite prosperous, but there was this sort of new emerging music so the young people could get to it. And then it's like the 70s all seemed a little bit depressed and a bit grubby and shit, wasn't it?
Speaker 7:Like in general, that whole decade Disco and stuff like that, like the 70s. Listen, there's so much pink Floyd or something that is dark.
Speaker 1:No, but I mean the period. I mean the period, like the political, the financial period. All that kind of it was gritty and shitty and dark.
Speaker 4:Exactly.
Speaker 1:Exactly that, and in the 80s it was kind of like a bit more well, yeah, the yuppies and all that kind of shit, so everybody could get hold of this stuff and there was more money around so you could buy it and you could buy gear and you could do this and that. So, yeah, it's a better period.
Speaker 2:Literally just shot your own, so you're saying the 80s was the best decade for music right yeah.
Speaker 1:No, no, I'm saying it's more accessible and there was more money around so people could could buy it themselves.
Speaker 2:So get into it. Sorry, that's what Johnny sitting there with his head almost in his hands. This is one of the most exciting podcasts we've ever done, because it's like you know. Obviously you don't know, but it's almost like there's a group of prisoners waiting to be executed and there's one guy who sat there watching them all go before him and he knows he's the last, but he got the joy of watching everybody else go. He knows he's looking at me.
Speaker 7:I've waited It'll be alright, johnny, nineties are actually. My children love the nineties now. So we're getting old where we are old. So therefore it's you change your thing and aspects and everything around what people think, because my children love the nineties.
Speaker 1:So I'm obsessed because that was your period and that's what you listen to.
Speaker 7:No, no, no, no no, no, but to a certain degree I didn't have any influence on that, because I listened to sixies and seventies more than anything.
Speaker 2:Thanks, mate.
Speaker 3:When I want the opinion of a cunt, I'll phone Boris Johnson. Yeah, I will just say, obviously we spoke about the sixties, but I will just say about George Michael and Wham, when I mean I was 10 or 11 when he was born in the sixties. And when, when Wham route I was on a cunt like Wham, you know I'm sort of a 12 year old boy or whatever it is. You listen back now and you realize what an absolute talent George Michael is, and how good Wham were.
Speaker 3:He was absolutely fantastic. So that's one regret. I didn't. I don't know, I don't think I appreciate him enough at the time. So in defense of the eighties, although it's not as good as the sixties, then obviously yeah all the seventies, oh yeah, but yeah, George Michael, I'm good call on that one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, fuck the nineties. Fair point, is it?
Speaker 2:fair to set up. What you said in your list Is that the list of like the two artists that you prefer.
Speaker 6:Well, I know I've got, I think I've mentioned it but my two artists for me, that define the eighties are Michael Jackson, and not because I'm a massive Michael Jackson fan, but I can't deny that his songs are just out of this world.
Speaker 2:They're just on another level.
Speaker 6:Yeah, he's a great fan nominal, something like the creativity, like me thinking things like three or less and stuff in the eighties and be the Billie.
Speaker 2:Jean number two.
Speaker 6:Yeah, and number two is the Pet Shop Boys. It's my personal favorite of mine. Love the style of the music.
Speaker 2:Interesting Pet Shop Boys because they're one of those and my mind blank for a few drinks and, as I think was it Robbo, certainly run and far more stupid than I pretend to be. You know very good at 10 to be clever. Yeah, they're one of those artists, that bit of the Bee Gees when you, when you kind of realize how many songs they actually wrote for other people, not just what they did, but how many songs the Pet Shop Boys together they have written a shitload of songs, they, they, you know they were huge and then they didn't vanish but they seem to kind of, you know, sort of fade a little bit. What they were doing was they consciously were like, well, we're a bit fed up of the grind of fame type thing. So they started to write a lot more for other people and yeah, you know shitload of other songs that they wrote.
Speaker 2:You might even be aware of songs Bishbop. There are two songs.
Speaker 6:Yeah, I've got two songs for two different reasons. So my first song is Together in Electric Dreams, phil Oakey, giorgio Moroder Classic, and I love that song because it sort of still has an impact on me today. I, you know, I don't know, you could be having a really down day and this song comes on and it's quite uplifting.
Speaker 2:And so, John yes, Sorry this point. I was just trying to ask Robo to pour a drink for Patch, but Patrick was saying he was. Ok because John's so lovely. John actually went to stop and get a drink for Patch. This is beautiful, sorry.
Speaker 6:Yeah, and my second song is Ride on Time by Black Box. And the reason is yeah 1989, the start of the dancing, and I went on my first holiday without my parents in 1989. Saying them all. As a 16 year old kid me and my best mate went to Tenerife and Ride on Time was on you know, it was just the song, the song of that summer.
Speaker 6:Yeah, mike, yeah, yeah, fucking weirdo, yeah, and yeah, we had a little two piece band going on the time. We learned to play it on the keyboards. Ride on Time. Every time I hear it now take me back to 1989.
Speaker 2:And that is the whole point of these yeah, through these songs mate, Perfect and then Miles, mr Bishpo.
Speaker 6:Perfect, all right.
Speaker 2:Again I've got to say a bar Can I put his voice up? A bar. The Patch set that. I was like you, fucking hell, mate. What's the point? Let's all go home. Both yourself and Robo, I feel, have actually stood up and reached Super. Really good, thank you, john. Very good, awesome, very, very, very, very quick break, un-kelves himself, from a little ball of crying and despair and a quick drink refill and a quick wee-wee break. Yes, I'm an old man, I have a bladder the size of a pea and we'll be right back with what I feel is going to be both the shortest and best argument of the night, which is going to be Johnny's. Ok, that was a quick drinks break, or not, as the listeners don't know, nobody knows. Oh, and to all of our friends in India Hello, johnny is next he's, and Johnny is the final one.
Speaker 2:We have got the scores in for all the other decades and I have to say everybody's been very, very generous. Close, very close. It's actually not that close to be honest. There's the at the moment. There's someone's dead, like you know, in the daylight, but the other scores are pretty high.
Speaker 1:Oh shit I haven't said that.
Speaker 2:I Don't think I'm being well. I am a massive prick, we know that, but I don't think I'm being an even more massive prick. I saying I think for various reasons, this is the one we've been looking for.
Speaker 1:Come on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sometime. And let me make it clear, right, because you know this is a show, right, this is fun, this entertainment. Right, johnny's one of my best friends and he wouldn't be one of my best friends if he was stupid, because I don't surround myself with stupid or Shallow people. However, I've got a funny thing.
Speaker 5:That's what's gonna.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what's gonna come up next is not gonna help your cause.
Speaker 4:Well.
Speaker 2:Johnny the 90s hit us with 30 seconds of information and then two minutes of.
Speaker 4:Well, I thought like obviously the 90s. When I grew up from I was through school, we're all through the 90s and I thought After, well, after what I've been said, I thought I'll change the dynamic and say, well, from what I know, nothing's really influenced the 90s. Then John chucks in right on time and dance music moving into the 90s. I'm going, I'll shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think craft work in the 70s might have been the, the journal. I Think it's not your guy be quiet.
Speaker 2:I also think I did see Johnny like tapping, like like a demon on his phone. What you're talking, john? I was thinking yeah.
Speaker 4:I've taken lots of notes today, so thank you, brilliant. And so I think with 90s and I think it started with like the grunge era- oh, so you've got like Pearl Jam, the Vana oh yeah, amazing earlier in the 90s and that was when I started like realizing music. I was like what, eight, nine years old, and then it went into like rock and roll, which they sort of Tagged as like Britpop. Yeah, you had like Oasis the verb radio head, blur poll.
Speaker 1:They were kind of like advances on from the mod thing.
Speaker 4:Well, rock and roll and it was. I don't know why they and I tagged it Britpop, but that was. I remembered that, so there's more of a competition element towards it, which was brilliant.
Speaker 2:Go on, I know I because the political establishment at the time. We're trying to take advantage of it and to use that to help boost their own popularity. That's what the whole Britpop thing came from. I think you had that iconic image of Tony Blair Having a drinks reception at number 10. Yes, inviting no Spice Girls might have been there. Yeah, it was a very calculated attempt to. History shows that when people in this country under a government feel really, really good about their country and feel really patriotic, that it actually makes that government more popular. Okay, classic example stature in the 80s was dead before the Falcons. The falcons she was before it started. She was fucked. She had she was gonna go out. Then the falcons happened.
Speaker 4:Patriotic flag waving got back in, so for the last I know four decades what if Van Halen do? Apparently they were Out in every single decade, from the 60, 70s, 80s, now 90s.
Speaker 3:The vampire hunters. Am I getting the wrong? Well, you know any van.
Speaker 2:Halen is obviously he's dead now anyway, moving on, and so that carry on make no, it's not my go.
Speaker 4:No, but I do, I'm gonna explain why Van Halen light in every single day.
Speaker 2:We're gonna get a taxi home later. Obviously he's one the same route and we'll talk about it then, okay perfect Anyway, so yeah.
Speaker 4:so, moving on from, like the Britpop era, you go and fight. I guess we now would call it R&B, because I Eminem dr Dre.
Speaker 1:So all in the 90s as well. So massive, massive on from the 70s hip-hop.
Speaker 4:Again, I thought I'd change the dynamic and say that there was no like, but yeah, I guess. And then you went like randomly into like say, happy, hardcore like. Bonkers albums come out and it was all like very hardcore music, Ecstasy and all this sort of stuff. That was all very much. I mean, I was so I was way too young for that sort of stuff.
Speaker 4:But yeah you remember to get like the electronic music and what we call dance music and then even got like People like Delirium of silence, atb 9 pm, telecom, which was still, I think, quitea. It's pivotal in the way I think dance music is now how massive it is. So I think the 90s is again it's pivotal in what music is today, because I think if we go into the bands that I would say that I like out of two bands would be Oasis.
Speaker 2:For these reasons, because there's no time is why. Why waste his buddy?
Speaker 4:Well, they're timeless. So, if you look at, I think they released definitely maybe night night for, and the songs are still being played by Liam and Noel now and it's 2023 and they're still getting. Like Scott said earlier, his children are still enjoying the music and they would go to like. Even Liam Gallagher played at Nebworth and he sold it out Straight away for a new era of listeners, and that's timeless and that's what 30 odd years old. Come on, Joe.
Speaker 6:Would you like to see Oasis get back together? I'll tell brothers mend their differences.
Speaker 4:See, for me, I Know that Noel was pivotal in writing the music and getting the band to the next stage, but for me, oasis is Liam and and I think Liam said on stage once he said Noel can go and play music and Play Oasis songs and sing Oasis songs and it'll be the same Liam's like. Well, my band can play the Oasis songs, but no one's Liam.
Speaker 2:I jumped in there but you just had to answer it. Sorry, johnny. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, why? And?
Speaker 2:but you were answering it.
Speaker 4:Yeah. So that's why I think my yeah, I mean my, my two, my, my main band would be Oasis from 90s and they're still going strong and if you look at, say, even Now, there's so many people that are influenced by Oasis. Lots of rock and roll bands are still and I know it is class as Britpop, but they are rock and roll. They went to America and, just like cause have a. It was amazing.
Speaker 4:And people go and watch it, and it was just like I think they said that when they did Nebworth was it 96? They could have sold it 11 times over, as in 11 days were.
Speaker 2:I'll give you a bonus point. Nobody else answer. I'll give you a bonus point on the voting tonight if you can answer this one. During that period, yep, oh, not long after that period, there's one other act. Who managed to actually outsell them, robbie.
Speaker 6:Williams yes.
Speaker 1:Okay straight in there, boom shack.
Speaker 2:Extra point for Johnny yeah, play.
Speaker 4:I think.
Speaker 2:I think, as Robbie did, three days, 82 in that right.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think that's probably down to the management as well. At the time no one else was. They don't first and they're like well, we can easily sell it out so management and.
Speaker 1:He just a fat dancer from. Take that and they.
Speaker 4:But then again with with pop music. So take that massive in the 90s spice girls. They.
Speaker 2:Sorry, scott, but we just had again in the microphone.
Speaker 4:I'm the world on a song called born slippy. That's not really pop like the spice girls.
Speaker 2:Underworld. What born slippy, yeah lager lager.
Speaker 7:Do you remember that?
Speaker 2:Mega, mega, me that was an answer, remember, lush that was trained.
Speaker 1:Trains by yeah.
Speaker 2:Lush and zoom that would they were that used to come on in Lush and zoom that. Born slippy it was one of those records where all the boys would be like we.
Speaker 4:Girls, we stood there going, you, we are doomed if you could say that about three lines with Frank Skinner.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:I think you make a really valid point regarding there's almost two Sort of veins running alongside each other. You've got the take that and the spice girls, and then you've got the oasis and elastica and the blur. I mean literally running alongside each other at the same time and it just sort of yeah, the blur versus oasis competition Was what they weren't against blur.
Speaker 5:They weren't against burn away.
Speaker 3:That's what makes you happy.
Speaker 2:I think the, I'm sorry, go job now I.
Speaker 6:John, I was gonna say is like I think you could argue that music was still music in the 90s, whereas now it's much more formula.
Speaker 4:Yeah, exactly yeah well, I think there's a lot more money as well to really produce a lot of this Music as well, and it's all structured. The rock and roll, rock and roll isn't really rock and roll anymore. They can't go out and Cause hell. There's imagery because it yeah, you got Instagram and they do something wrong. They probably something could happen. The band might not tour again Back then. Yeah, exactly, oh.
Speaker 2:I will find out when our steed gets bigger and people go back over your Instagram, johnny.
Speaker 1:Not problem.
Speaker 2:Actually I'm gonna happen now. It's not. Yeah, massive, massive piece of me, yeah so what I was just gonna say was to make it clear that Johnny's Instagram is fine.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2:I think it was that, the oasis blur particular to my mind I again. So I'm big music. I'm just an opinionated twat. He doesn't know when to be quiet. But the oasis blur thing is the last time we can remember a chart Battle you know, you don't hear about it anymore. Anyway, we all know that streaming has changed things. That's a different conversation entirely. But the oasis blur thing, was it country house and roll with?
Speaker 5:it. I think it was with the two records.
Speaker 2:Who was gonna get to number one? Who would win? That's the last time I can remember that the. Massive, yes, right yeah, massive excitement made to six o'clock news.
Speaker 3:Buzz Made to six o'clock news. Yeah, massive buzz. John.
Speaker 2:John, which one did you buy, if any, or which one would you have bought country house or roll with it?
Speaker 6:At the time Probably country house I was I did prefer blur to oasis in the 90s, but Since looking back, I I can you know I can say that oasis were Huge as well, so I just like them though.
Speaker 2:I Know that's a hundred percent what I think. I actually agree with that skull.
Speaker 7:And then that yeah, I like to, and Joe guest was in the video as well, which I really patched an opinion for someone who's not a retard.
Speaker 3:I am. I bought Definitely maybe I really loved it fantastic album. And then, what was there? A second album? What was there?
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I bought that and then took it back because I didn't like it. They said why are you bringing it back? And I said I don't like the album. I went. We've never had someone say that.
Speaker 4:Well, we'll give you money back, did they? Yeah, yeah, yeah I.
Speaker 3:Came in with money back because I said they said why are you bringing about? So I don't like it. They went we've never, ever had someone say that all right yeah.
Speaker 2:I still got a carrier bag in my lob. Let's go round the table in Scott. You'll start by going table. Morning glory was no, definitely, maybe was the first one. Was that? What's the story? Morning glory, which one of those two favorite the way?
Speaker 7:I, there's certain tracks of ways, is that just mean something to me in certain areas? So I, I wouldn't. I'd pick one to certain degrees name which album you prefer.
Speaker 2:other two it's not fucking difficult. None, that's Morning glory.
Speaker 7:Thank you.
Speaker 2:They say there's a lot of time, then, johnny, definitely maybe.
Speaker 4:Definitely maybe and I'll tell you why in a minute, Okay.
Speaker 5:Rob oh.
Speaker 2:Hmm, what's the story? But they definitely may be the first one. What's the story? Morning?
Speaker 1:I don't know them well enough to know which songs were on which album, but I don't I Don't dislike either, oh, any of their albums. To be honest, there's Sometimes, I do stop being such a prick it's your one mate purely for champagne supernova, and don't look back in anger. Definitely maybe thank you See, I explained myself and you're still being a cunt. So there you go.
Speaker 2:You made it awkward for everybody. Now you know that yeah.
Speaker 3:Definitely, maybe. For me every time I love, definitely, maybe breath fresh air really was a fantastic album. The other one I kind of remember the name of morning glory.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:That to me it just all sounded the same. I've lost count. What was the winner?
Speaker 5:Is it true?
Speaker 2:Yeah, johnny, carry on, sorry. No, it's two bands, yes, two artists. It could be a solo.
Speaker 4:Yes, I'll ace this for one, and I would say the verb. So, the verb were actually out before Oasis. No, was a huge fan, yeah, and interestingly enough, me Richard Ashcroft is still doing music now. Awesome, and I don't know if it's true, but I haven't seen anything, any headlines, but no one's had a beef with the verb and they all respect the verb Richard Ashcroft so much that they must be amazing.
Speaker 2:I'll pet Robo as you.
Speaker 4:I don't know you agreed, but yeah so I'd say yeah the verb and Oasis again. Rich Ashcroft's still doing stuff now on his own. The songs are timeless again. And then I would say my two songs would be Slytherway favourite.
Speaker 2:Okay, where that one specifically buddy.
Speaker 4:Slytherway. It's just the lyrics is like they're just unbelievable. It gives me a good feeling when I listen to it and also as well, even when Oasis were playing. Sorry, when Liam was playing Epworth, whenever he played Slytherway I remember he played Slytherway anywhere the crowd just got wild again. From back in the 90s to now, just awesome. And then I'll say something a bit maybe controversial, but this is me personally.
Speaker 1:Is that the reason why we picked him, of course, of course, personally, personally, yeah.
Speaker 4:I think the reason I chose Delirium and Silence would be my second song and that was because it was a dance song and I'm really into like dance house music now. But they that and 80B9 until I come was very, very close, but I think Delirium was out first. He has 97, 80b was 99. But they still use that, the basis that for house music now, which I'm really into.
Speaker 2:So I'll say those two in my favourite. So the sampling. Delirium.
Speaker 4:Silence.
Speaker 2:So was the band.
Speaker 4:No, the DJ Delirium band.
Speaker 2:Oh, so it's called Silence. I know nothing about that.
Speaker 4:No me neither you know the song, you would know the song Patch.
Speaker 3:Um Patch Faithless, Would I have 90s.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that was, yeah, To me amazing yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah so that's it.
Speaker 4:That's all I'm going to say.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 6:Radiohead Okay, computer.
Speaker 4:Yeah, okay, computer, yeah, karma, police was.
Speaker 5:You were close to picking radiohead.
Speaker 6:Yeah.
Speaker 4:So I was close to picking radiohead and Karma Police. Yeah, I think OK Computer came out in 97 maybe and Karma Police was such a massive song in like I think 98. And I remember it because I was 14, I think then and I used to hang around with my cousin who was older and then we'd always play radiohead and Karma Police, and that just reminds me of that. So it gave me a good feeling in that song.
Speaker 4:But I've already given a good feeling inside of it, so I'm going with Delirium Silence, what I feel now with House Music Awesome reasons I just just uh Radiohead Creep oh yeah, you have you have never, ever in your life heard a version of Creep like Bishop does.
Speaker 2:I've been a bit. We've been to quite a few karaoke over over the years. Being John Well, we spent a lot of time standing around your piano in your house how your parents didn't kick the fuck out of me anyway, uh, where we'd stand and sing together when we're younger. But the the version of Creep that John does on a parachute. It is phenomenal.
Speaker 2:That's a brave joy, yeah, and he, he like the change between the high notes and the loaner and the emotion behind it and all the stuff on it. It is just phenomenal. Anyway, scott, you've been waiting to say something. Sorry, it'd be great. Song jump.
Speaker 7:No, to be honest, it was just uh, that was a creep reminds me of my first day college, when I sat there I didn't know anyone and someone started.
Speaker 4:he said listen to this band called your first day yeah, First day of college. So I was like listen to this band.
Speaker 7:And I thought, wow, that was took me to a whole new.
Speaker 4:And then I started to make new friends better friends, so John has met you for the first time tonight and he said that creep is what people associate with you, that's actually great.
Speaker 7:I met you for an hour and I thought this is my moment about, like Martin McCutcheon from the nineties.
Speaker 2:So we cause the very last podcast that we did with you. On it you bought this is my moment by Martin McCutcheon into it and then Dick face here, dick face here, felt compelled to sing it and it was dreadful. Uh, sorry, buddy, sorry.
Speaker 3:No, no, no One. I've already mentioned this. I think you're all right. I think you're a creep to ocean color scene.
Speaker 4:I just mentioned those. All right, you've got me on that patch. Okay, I just mentioned them.
Speaker 7:He used to come into my restaurant every Friday. He used to give him a free burger, Simon.
Speaker 4:Simon Fowler from Free burger every week and a free beer every week. He's Simon Fowler.
Speaker 7:I didn't know that it was him, and then I just ended up just giving him every I don't know what his name is.
Speaker 2:At least he's Simon Fowler. Simon Fowler, yeah, more like he came in your mouth.
Speaker 3:Um, yeah, so um that way.
Speaker 2:That kind of makes it worse that you let him do it when he wasn't fat Top. Do you know? All of my tops these days are tight. That's because I'm fat, even like the ones I'm supposed to be, Right, I know my right shirt. No, I'm not right on the pants. Um, I tell you what boys I've loved this All right, you guys.
Speaker 3:Yeah, fantastic.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's brilliant.
Speaker 1:I really liked it.
Speaker 3:Absolutely brilliant. Um, I think, a round of applause at a night.
Speaker 2:I'll just about say yeah, Johnny, I disagree.
Speaker 7:I think we're filling.
Speaker 2:I have to say, johnny, I have been, you know, sitting there, you know, trying to poke you and I and wind you up, but you know, you're really gracious and funny about it. You don't genuinely get the right um and make everybody go. Oh, thank you for that, that was great.
Speaker 4:You did really well.
Speaker 2:Right, let's have a quick break where John can give. Uh, well, you guys can give us the scores that Johnny's got and then we'll come right back, wrap up the show, give up the final scores. I think, johnny, you put yourself in contention there, mate, perfect yeah.
Speaker 1:One.
Speaker 2:All right, another drink break Um. Rob, have you calmed down now, are you okay?
Speaker 1:I was, I was all good.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, you were purple, was that yeah?
Speaker 1:Oh, that's, because of the sun, a bit of a redhead.
Speaker 4:See, that's those sunflowers. It was the sunflowers.
Speaker 1:Walking around a maze for two and a half hours. You make it out. All right, I did make it out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we did have to cheat a little bit, Was that under two hours?
Speaker 1:Well, it was two hours to the big one, half an hour for the small one. We did both of them in just under one hour. No, an hour and a half.
Speaker 2:Did you just say you had to cheat? Yes, we did. How did you cheat what?
Speaker 1:did you.
Speaker 7:We walked through. Did you have a chainsaw?
Speaker 3:You were.
Speaker 1:It was like, okay, we need to be over there.
Speaker 4:And we can't get through there.
Speaker 1:So we're going to walk through the maze. Wow, wow.
Speaker 2:Just make clear. We got an email here from Mr Stains who wonders why we hate each other so much. That you make it very, very clear I love this kind of death. I do like winding them up and it's not always fair. But you know, love the guy to death. Scott, you said you were going to be here for like 40 minutes an hour and go home.
Speaker 4:Three hours of sleep. I'm glad you weren't.
Speaker 2:Because it's always wonderful having you here, I'd like to get from you some of your thoughts on what you've heard. Any final things you want to say, anything you want to add and if, before we get to the scores, separately from the scores, I'm going to put you on the spot I want you to tell us which of the decades you personally feel is the greatest decade of music.
Speaker 7:Okay, thank you very much. I've really enjoyed tonight. That's hence why I stayed. I thought everyone's arguments was fantastic.
Speaker 7:I think we filled a little bit for John, but that's just a personal view, but I thought everyone's arguments were superb, actually superb, and it brought back a lot of memories and lovely memories of certain things that you don't think about to certain degree and you've got other influences within that, that you have personal influences. But I've really really enjoyed it tonight and it's lovely and I think, as perhaps it's it's lovely to talk about music on every level when it's so personal, when it makes you emotional about everything. But my personal view is the sixties really is smashed everything out the park.
Speaker 2:I think Fuck you.
Speaker 7:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Van Halen. They came out. Van Halen was the sixties.
Speaker 5:Were they yeah which band in particular has gone? Which band in particular? Van Halen, because they were in every decade.
Speaker 2:To be fair, rob, that's a really good point, rob. Yeah, I'm just about to say that. Thanks for leading into it. Buddy, I want to hear from you Two bands, two songs, if you've got them if you haven't Van.
Speaker 3:Halen obviously Fucking.
Speaker 5:Van.
Speaker 3:Halen. Have you got two bands Jimi Hendrix here Songs?
Speaker 2:Don't that be from the sixties? Just let's, let's go from all time.
Speaker 7:I mean Fleetwood Mac is obviously going to be one. My Fleetwood Mac is my favourite band of all time.
Speaker 2:And what's your favourite? Fleetwood Mac song.
Speaker 7:You Make Love and Fun.
Speaker 5:I just oh yeah, we've had that conversation, Scott and me, Johnny and Rob.
Speaker 2:I've sat there about three o'clock in the morning at Johnny's and Rob was very drunk. We'd be drinking for a while and I don't know who asked it, but we started talking about it what songs would you want to be played at your funeral? These are my two songs and you just had them.
Speaker 7:Right there I've thought about this quite a lot. Yes, you Make Love and Fun. And Elton John Tiny Dancer.
Speaker 4:This is my two songs and the wife.
Speaker 7:Because I'm tiny. I like dancing.
Speaker 5:You're not Actually the thing is.
Speaker 7:the thing is I don't like dancing unless I'm smashed, and if I'm dancing, then take me home. Yeah, but those are my two.
Speaker 2:Perfect. Yes, Mate, we're very glad that you stayed. Rob. Any final thoughts from you, buddy?
Speaker 1:No, I thought it was great. I really liked it. I like having a lot of people around the table. It's great.
Speaker 2:Really is fun, isn't it? Yeah, it's great, it's really good.
Speaker 1:Lots of different opinions and all that kind of stuff and it's really good.
Speaker 2:We've had from our friend, graham, who's nicknamed I still don't know why Shaggy Graham. Again, I'll go back to what I said around about making me feel inferior singing-wise Again, it sounds arrogant. There's not a lot of people that do make me feel inferior. Intelligence-wise that sounds arrogant. But I do kind of think fuck me, I don't want to get into a conversation with you because you'll destroy me and Graham.
Speaker 1:Oh, Graham's fiercely intelligent.
Speaker 2:Disgustingly intelligent, fiercely intelligent, and he wrote on Facebook tonight that he thought that Abby stole the show. I made something on football.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, oh, was he listening.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 2:No, no, that's this one, the football one, the one I posted is that I need to say about Abby. She stole the show. She did really well, so it's great having other people, isn't it?
Speaker 1:Indeed.
Speaker 2:John. Any final thoughts from you, mr Bishbob?
Speaker 6:Yeah, I guess it's a little bit late now, seeing as the votes have already been cast, but I'm going to leave you with a little sort of analogy of where I see the decades. So in the 60s the seeds of music were planted. Boom In the 70s German age the sunflower started to grow. In the 80s it sort of reached full bloom and it was magnificent and then in the 90s it sort of whizzled out and died.
Speaker 4:I'll leave it there.
Speaker 2:I say, john and I have done each other since 2016. And you know he's always been one of my best, dearest friends. We have gone through various different reasons not negative ones, just life, pretty long periods of not seeing each other and talking and stuff like that. But every time we do see each other, it's like it was yesterday and like time to time that perfectly encapsulated just why I love you so much. That was absolutely brilliant.
Speaker 3:Well, I think John's just summed it up the 80s were pretentious, and that's fantastic, pretentious and arrogant If the 80s were a club, they'd be Liz Flairs. Let's just say that.
Speaker 4:I'm going to leave it at that, All right thank you very much.
Speaker 2:Thanks for having me on again and I also know in Pat Jinsle was 16. We've got a lot closer, kind of as grown-ups didn't we, we knew each other at those teenage.
Speaker 4:but we hung around in different groups and you wouldn't let me in your group, which is obviously you know I'm fine with it, I'm fine.
Speaker 2:But that is an example of why I love you so much. Thank you, john, pat. Seriously, boys, we're drinking yeah amazing You've been brilliant tonight. Thank you, I want to have you back on the show again as soon as possible.
Speaker 4:Look forward to the next one.
Speaker 2:Awesome, Johnny Greenfield. Pretty but vacant. Any final thoughts from? You?
Speaker 1:What do you?
Speaker 5:mean.
Speaker 4:All right, I'm just not hungry at all.
Speaker 2:We're in the pub early One day you need to be.
Speaker 7:We're outside the pub.
Speaker 2:I don't want to have a drink and like for about 10 minutes he just rinsed me, Didn't you think? We said, and I'll just grind it when I'm going to get you back?
Speaker 4:And I'll have this.
Speaker 2:I had that line in my mind for about four hours.
Speaker 4:I thought I'm going to throw that in there. Boom, has it worked.
Speaker 2:What did you do? You grin at me and move on. You're a fucking prick, I hate you.
Speaker 4:Yeah, no, no, it's that. Yeah, really good. Learned a lot from you guys, enjoyed it, didn't know a lot about, especially the early decades where Way out of your era, isn't it. Well, I'm into music a lot Like daddy's working it and it was, but I've never really looked that deep into it around. I think you might say that catch about what your parents listen to and stuff. So you're very siloed into what you listen to. So hearing a wider story of it is very interesting to her. And also I'm glad I went last because I could take some notes and, yeah, I'm glad.
Speaker 1:I wasn't first. I tell you that.
Speaker 4:It would have taken three minutes.
Speaker 2:No, it was actually was really good. I was sitting in half. For me it was like rooting for you. John is not vacant, of course he's not easy.
Speaker 5:Very clever guy.
Speaker 2:If he wasn't, he would be one of my best friends. As I would say don't surround myself with stupid people. So I just try to wind him up, but he never buys, so it's pointless really, but I was sitting in it. I won't lie, there was a part of me kind of sitting and thinking, oh please crash.
Speaker 4:I was close, but you know I was close, I was close. So thank you guys for giving me a bit of insight and to tell this is going to be yeah, but you didn't. You did, it was really really good.
Speaker 2:He wants to hear the final scores. Yes, yeah, go on it. Yeah, okay. I'm not going to give the actual scores, just so I do an X factor, but I'm going to give you in reverse order, in tide for third place. Dead end is a crime. Can somebody make a noise or like a music tune?
Speaker 1:Oh, that's as good as drumrolls I can do. It was good, it was really good, third place.
Speaker 2:tide for third place. It is Johnny and Robbo. Oh, well done, I'll take that.
Speaker 4:It was really tempted to deliberately score Robbo lower.
Speaker 2:So he'd finished last, but I think that class might have become a permanent fixture in my face if I'd have done that. So in second place in second place, and this won't come as a surprise, really, given what an amazing job that the first place person did In second place. It is John Bishop. However, what I will say is the gap was only two points.
Speaker 2:So it was very close but the winner, and I don't think you know it was a great way to kick off the show because made everyone shit their pants. Thoroughly deserved patch and the sixties. Thank you very much. Beautiful. I don't think anybody got any final thoughts before we click off for the Well, no kernel for the music we hear today, so it's hardly any surprise.
Speaker 2:I actually thought, Robbo, you made a really fair point. Obviously, I was trying to throw you earlier on about how the sixties was. You know, began the germination of the seventies and then, John, you made a few. You picked up Ramada, you know, if you look at music, I said I fuck all about music. But as with many things that are nothing about, it doesn't stop me.
Speaker 1:Do you know what? I think the sixties is kind of that tentative kind of can we do this, Can we, can we get, can we do that, Can we get away with that? And then they got away with it. And then the seventies went. Yeah, let's fucking go, man, it's like just went mad. But it's without the sixties, without that sixties tentative kind of dip your toe in the water it wouldn't have happened.
Speaker 7:Although the sixties was first first chorus, first first chorus oh it was all formulaic and it always is now.
Speaker 5:Jesus look at everything.
Speaker 1:Jesus, it's all formulaic, but it's that experimental side of it that came out and it started in the sixties and then it just went poof in the helped.
Speaker 7:The Beatles took LSD.
Speaker 1:That's when they got really good.
Speaker 4:Everyone did the sixties that's a good point.
Speaker 1:Actually, we haven't touched on that at all.
Speaker 2:There was a great story about the first time they dropped LSD, and I think it was with Bob Dylan, if I remember right.
Speaker 5:Could it?
Speaker 2:be, it was pop.
Speaker 3:It was pop, but then.
Speaker 2:ah right, it was something to talk about. But the first time I did LSD apparently the McCartney and Lenin and Harrison in particular like fucking hell, there's a whole new world being opened up, you know, and they just like absolutely kind of embraced it. George Harrison is fascinating to me, actually, so I was dragging out a bit now, but George Harrison I find the most fascinating. The Beatles because I think it wasn't till was a third or fourth album he didn't write a song for the album.
Speaker 6:Second album he actually wrote the first song on patch Okay.
Speaker 3:Then it was after it was about the fourth or 50, he started to actually have a bit of a musical voice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he took him a while, didn't it, To kind of really find his voice and find his confidence there. Do you think To actually speak?
Speaker 3:up? Yeah, I would say his confidence, but also your, overshadowed by Lenin and McCartney?
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you're in competition with Lenin and McCartney. You're going to be a little bit sheepish.
Speaker 2:Stop me mate.
Speaker 6:I think Lenin and McCartney gave George Harrison and Ringo Starr a token song on each album so they would have you know credit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what you're talking about, isn't it? Octopus's Garden, because Ringo was that was his one, wasn't it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, Right, and funny enough. My daughter's one of my daughters. My daughter's second favorite song my daughter Shit. My son Jacob, Wow, my son Jacob, his second favorite song has got my mind set on you by George Harrison.
Speaker 7:That's my first song and his favorite is Say, say, say.
Speaker 2:Johnny's been dying to say something. I knew you were telling me to shut the fuck up and finish the podcast.
Speaker 4:Well, no, I was just saying that I think we've got a good insight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, to shut the fuck up and finish the podcast.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's what that means.
Speaker 2:All three of us own the company. You can be a prick to me. I can't fire you. He knows. That's why he threatens me. I don't threaten anyone. I'm scared of you.
Speaker 3:I think you're always a threat.
Speaker 1:Yeah exactly.
Speaker 5:It's the redness around them, isn't it?
Speaker 4:That's the sunflowers.
Speaker 1:Definitely was a sunflowers.
Speaker 2:I tell you what, John Patch, I love you both so much. You've been absolutely fucking legends on this. Thank you so much, boys. Thanks for having us.
Speaker 6:Thank you very much, always a pleasure.
Speaker 2:Thank you for sticking around. You were great. You were great, babe. Thank you.
Speaker 7:And John and.
Speaker 2:Robby as you saw guys, we are out, we are done. That's OST down from here. We're going to take a two-week break now because Johnny is off on a stag do yes, stag do and we're going to have a little mid-season break.
Speaker 2:But what we do have is we have two episodes of season two that I thought were lost, but I found Including John is the co-host on one of those two episodes, and we also have the season finale of Bollocks or Not, and the winner of that episode of Bollocks or Not won the entire season. So keep your ears open for that, folks. We are done, we're out of here. Thank you for listening, remember don't be a dick.